THE SERVANT GENERAL
ASSAULTS ON FAITH, FAMILY AND LIFE
REVERENCE FOR GAY UNIONS?
Fr James Martin S.J. is a homosexualist supporter of LGBT.
He is causing much confusion in our Church, and is helping
to keep many active homosexuals in their sin. Homosexual acts
are intrinsically disordered and sinful. Those in active gay
relationships are not to be encouraged by professing reverence
for their sin, making them feel right about the wrong that
Traditional Catholics are not homophobic or close-minded.
We hate the sin but love the sinner. We respect homosexuals
as persons with dignity even as we reject their sinful ways.
Let there be no confusion, as is the result of Fr Martin’s
advocacy. Active homosexuality is wrong and there is nothing
good about active homosexual relationships. Such acceptance
and even reverence for gay unions is an assault against faith,
family and life.
FR. MARTIN CALLS FOR ‘REVERENCE’
FOR HOMOSEXUAL UNIONS
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Trey Elmore • September 13, 2017 182 Comments
Calls orthodox Catholics "homophobic," "closed-minded"
NEW YORK ( ChurchMilitant.com) - Homosexualist
Jesuit Fr. James Martin is calling for gay relationships to
be shown "reverence" at a September
5 symposium at Fordham University, a Jesuit institution in
Referring to an active homosexual
friend in a same-sex marriage, Martin said, "I have a
hard time imagining how even the most traditionalist, homophobic,
closed-minded Catholic cannot look at my friend and say, 'That
is a loving act, and that is a form of love that I don't understand
but I have to reverence.'"
Father Martin's friend Mark left a religious order and currently
lives with his "husband." Martin said:
He came out and has been with his partner for 20 years. His
partner has a fairly serious illness that is, at times, extremely
serious and requires a lot of attention. Mark has cared for
him for, I think, 15–20 years now. And one of the questions
I would like the institutional Church to reflect on is: "Is
this not love?"
He went on to remark, "I do not understand how a person
could say the following things: This is not love, this is
a lesser love, they should be apart, they should have never
met, they should never be together."
Father Martin went on to describe meeting a couple at a parish
that consisted of a woman and a man who was transgender and
living his life as a woman. They told Fr. Martin, they were
married before the husband "was a man." Fr. Martin
said, "The first question that came to my mind was 'what
can the Church learn from them about fidelity?'"
In a post on Facebook, Joseph Sciambra, an ex-gay porn star
of whom Church Militant has written previously, gave the following
response to Fr. Martin's argument: "After listening to
the livestream discussion between James Martin and Patrick
Hornbeck I had even less respect for James Martin."
I believe that as human beings, two men or two women, no matter
what their perceived sexual orientation, can express true
compassion for each other, but the problem that I see with
James Martin is that he perceives this "loving"
relationship within a homosexual context. That because
two men for example, can care for each other, consequently,
the homosexual orientation must be good. This is false.
As a man who lived through the height of the AIDS crisis in
the early 1990s, I saw many of my friends who exhibited an
immense amount of self-sacrifice towards their dying lovers.
In this sense, homosexual men
and women are just like heterosexuals in their capacity to
reach out towards those who suffer. But this goodness comes
from God and not from their sexual orientation.
For someone like James Martin, because he argues that "God
made you this way," the individual and the orientation
are inseparable. Therefore he can't see the good in someone
without equating it with their sexuality.
Sciambra went on to repost a comment from Pittsburgh Theological
Seminary Professor Robert Gagnon, who said, "This
is a virtual endorsement, not merely of a friendship (to which
no one would object) but of a romantic, homosexual relationship
("to be together" normally refers to sexual relationships)."
Gagnon pointed out that Martin conflated the circumstances
surrounding an objectively sinful lifestyle with the lifestyle
Martin likes to obscure a distinction
between friendship love and romantic love when he points to
the relationship being "loving" as the defining
feature. Suppose this were instead an adult-consensual, incestuous
relationship in which a man cared for his mother or sister.
Would Martin make the same observation, inferring a validation
of the incestuous component of the union?
The symposium also featured Patrick Hornbeck, chairman of
the theology department at Fordham and an active "married"
homosexual, who said that Fr. Martin had "performed a
great service." Hornbeck actually criticized Fr. Martin's
position in his book that the so-called LGBT community gives
the hierarchy "the gift of time," saying that "we
have to ask the question, 'what is the cost' to the members
of the LGBT community?"
Hornbeck noted that homosexual teenagers have higher suicide
rates than heterosexual teenagers, implying that the Church's
condemnation of same-sex acts is the reason for the trend.
Hornbeck said, "When an LGBT person comes and sits in
a Church space, the theological presuppositions that are at
work in that space includes the idea that their attractions
are objectively disordered includes the position that
the institutional Church has taken that just discrimination
The Catechism of the Catholic
Church teaches in paragraph 2357 that homosexual acts are
intrinsically disordered. The next paragraph goes on to say
that "every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard
should be avoided." Examples of just
discrimination against persons with same-sex attraction include
the 2008 Vatican instruction, directing seminaries to dismiss
men with "deep-seated homosexual tendencies."